Recently, I was visiting one of our Hillsong Churches and had the privilege of meeting a man whose story stayed with me. Born and raised in India in a Hindu home, he hadn’t grown up in the church.
Christianity was new to him—but after encountering Jesus, his life changed.
He had visited two Hillsong locations in two different countries. What moved him most wasn’t the size of the rooms or the music—it was the heart he sensed in the people.
“I felt like I belonged,” he told me. “Even though I didn’t know what went on behind the scenes, I could feel it in the details.”
That stirred me deeply. In a world often marked by division, here was someone experiencing the unity and belonging we pray for—simply by walking through our doors.
With that moment in my heart, I sat down with Chanelle Murray, one of our campus pastors at the Hills Campus in Australia. From the very beginning, I’ve seen her passionate conviction for building churches that look like heaven—where every culture, age, and background can find a place to belong.
This is part of our conversation.
